Healer Q&A: Overcoming the odds to inspire wellness with Udo Erasmus
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Udo Erasmus, the esteemed founder of Udo's Choice Line and author of "Fats that Heal, Fats that Kill," shares his incredible life story from enduring pesticide poisoning to emerging as a leader in health and wellness. Through this episode, we unpack how Udo's background in biochemistry and nutrition equipped him to challenge industrial oil processing and champion the importance of personal health responsibility. Udo's relentless commitment to enhancing lives, driven by his early experiences in a war-torn environment, serves as an inspiration.
From the heavy burden of self-doubt to the triumph of completing a 54-chapter book, our conversation reveals the transformative power of perseverance and inspiration. We explore how moving back home and embracing unconventional ideas allowed a seemingly impossible dream to become a reality. Through stories of overcoming obstacles and harnessing an obsessive passion, we highlight the vital role of dedication and resourcefulness in crafting remarkable outcomes.
Turning misconceptions on their head, we tackle the misinformation surrounding essential oils, particularly omega-6. Udo passionately urges listeners to seek accurate insights and avoid sensationalized narratives as we journey into themes of inner peace, holistic health, and the bold expression of intuitive insights that challenge the status quo.
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Overcoming Doubt and Pursuing Passion
Udo Erasmus: I think you have to embody the inspiration and you have to lose the three-dimensional reality, because that's all your doubts. When you were a little kid, your parents told you, you can do anything you set your mind to. Then, you become a teenager and you start doing the thing, whatever you want, and then they say you got to be realistic, you have to have a job. What? Are you going to be practical? So first they set you up and then they knock you down. No, you have to lose the three-dimensional reality. You cannot do something original if you don't let go. You can't row your boat across the ocean if it's tied to the dock, so you have to untie it from the dock, and a lot of that, and there's self-doubt.
So what I did specifically? I moved in with my mother. I was 41 years old, I wasn't working, I had been poisoned and I wasn't sure where I was going next. And I said to her “I want to write a book.” I wrote 54 chapters, one after the other. The only thing I did, I just got into a flow. And there's a point when you're understanding, because I was reading every day. I was in the library all the time. I was taking a bus to the library and then I'd go into the stacks and I'd pull the books and I'd ask the library where's this and where's that? And then I would read and take notes, and look at this and everything and it was like open-ended because I didn't really know quite yet what I was looking for. I wrote five more chapters and inserted them in various places, but it's like the book almost wrote itself. It's almost channeled. I don't usually think in terms like channeling, but it feels like that.
So I'm being used for something and there's a place when something in you gets organized and when you're obsessed with something, your whole being organizes itself around your obsession. It's just human nature. Now, if you've never experienced that, you don't know that because nobody tells you that. Once in a while you get obsessed with something and magic happens. And then, when the book got written, I didn't really want to do more and my brother, who's a science teacher, helped me with the book and I tried out my explanations in his grade nine science class. And then he said, “You should make oils. You've done the studies, you've done the reading, you understand what you're doing. Now you're going to write a book and that book will get into the hands of people. They will use your book to sell their products, but they won't make their products the way they need to be made. So you should do it because you know how it needs to be done.”
Then when the book came out, some people got really interested. They said they wanted to work with me and so the book found the people I needed, and that's another universal principle that, if you like, I've noticed that when I do something or I have a goal and I'm inspired about doing something and I'm too lazy to do it and I want, and I now look for help, I never find the right help. But if I start doing it and do what I can on my own without help, when I need the help, it shows up. How does that happen? It's the inspiration. I don't know if you create an energy field, and people are sucked into that energy field.
Inner Peace and Finding Mission
Udo Erasmus: The most important thing is to do nothing. Go stillness, practice every day, spend some time alone by yourself, alert, awake and present in the space your body occupies, and feel what that feels like, because that's where you find your peace. That's where you find the love that everybody's looking for. You already have it in you. It loves you unconditionally and it empowers you and loves you unconditionally, and out of that love comes your inspiration. So what is your mission? It's already sitting inside of you, but you have to get quiet to discover it. And then, what is that mission? You become the inspiration for that mission.
At some point you have to deal with the three-dimensional reality, like how do you charge and what kind of billing system do you build and how do you make your presence? How do you get and what kind of billing system do you build and how do you make your presence? How do you get your presence out there - whether it's the internet, or you join clubs or whatever you do? You get somebody to do that for you because there are lots of people who know how to do that and you make sure that you clear the mission that you hold to the mission, that when it comes to the quality control of that mission, you stay in charge. If it's your mission, you need to maintain control over what is the nature of that mission. Because it's your mission, it was given to you.
Overcoming Challenges in your Holistic Mission
Udo Erasmus: I think the answer to that is you have to go deeper – overcome that. You have to go deeper inside you. The peace in you has no doubts. The unconditional, empowering love that is your life has no doubts. It's always healthy, it's perfect health, and the more settled you are in that and not just when you're sitting still, but you hold on to it when you move around in the world. Be present in your own space when you're interacting in the world, because that's where confidence lives. And it doesn't depend on a scientific explanation. You can find the words if you understand another person's language skills or their vocabulary. You can say things in a way that they will understand using their language, if you're really clear within yourself and that you want to help them.
Defining Success and Riches
Udo Erasmus: It's your own definition for your own success and it's different for different people. For somebody it's a million dollars and for somebody it's "I helped a lady across the road and I picked up her groceries when her bag broke." Success is a feeling, it's not a bank account, it's not a status – it's a feeling.
Success and rich goes together. Rich is a feeling because you can have $50 billion and be depressed. So being rich is an inside job, just like success is an inside job. And, by the way, you're successful because you're breathing, and when you stop breathing, then you'll be unsuccessful, but you won't care. Then the other one was if you're obsessed with something, that's a sign that probably there's something there that you want to explore, and especially if you can be obsessed with helping.
For me, the stillness is always the foundation, because when I feel cared for, it's not about me anymore, and all I have to do is bring my focus into the space my body occupies. That's where the care lives. Life unconditionally loves me and empowers me, me being the body and life. I'm actually that unconditional love, that unconditional empowering love. So life loves the body unconditionally and empowers it. When that's an experience for you, you're literally capable of doing way more than you ever thought you were, because everybody has many talents. When you're fully present in your space and you feel cared for and you're at peace. There's so many different ways that you can help and this is a cool thing, okay. And then and then the other thing is just making the biggest splash for good that you can make in the time you have on earth can't go wrong on it. You can't go wrong on that. There's no form, there's no formula, because you're unique. So your story of your success story, your story of what it, what your life is going to be like, is going to be as unique as you are. So it's not bad to get advice, but don't make the advice more important than your own experience and really push for your own experience.